Vitiligo Support Forum

I was recently diagnosed with vitiligo and I came across an e-book called Vitiligo written by A. Schenk, MD. The e-book explained how low stomach acidity caused by H-pylori germ causes incomplete digestion of food with resultant absorption of large undigested macromolecules into the blood. The blood then produces a widespread antibody response. The widespread antibody response may destroy healthy cells causing autoimmune diseases such as vitiligo. The malabsorption of food also causes deficiency of vitamins such as vitamin B’s and minerals such as zinc and cooper. People with reduced acid levels suffer from heartburn, bloating, nausea, burping but unfortunately they associate heartburn with high stomach acid and subsequently take acid-lowering drugs, by doing so they encourage greater H. Pylori activity.

 

Among so many other references; the e-book makes a reference to a Southern Medical Journal 38(4):235-240, Apr-1945 which states 90% of Vitiligo patients had little or no stomach Acid, 95% of Alopecia patients had little or no stomach Acid, 100% of Lupus Erythematosis patients had little or no stomach Acid, 89% of  Psoriasis patients had little or no stomach Acid, 85% of Urticaria patients had little or no stomach Acid, 74% of Eczema patients had little or no stomach Acid, 87% of Acne Rosacea patients has little or no stomach Acid. Because H-Pylori develop resistance to antibiotics; the book suggestion on how to eradicate H-pylori is to acidify the stomach by taking sufficient (large) dosage of Betaine Hydrochloride capsules according to the degree of tolerance for an extended period of time until the stomach is re-trained to produce sufficient acidity. Google “how to kill h-pylori” and a detail instruction will come up. The following website provides a very good instruction on how to kill h-pylori http://www.modernherbalist.com/betaine.html . Even though the h-pylori are killed and the acidity is back to normal; the blood may be conditioned to produce antibodies for several years. Patient may not see improvement until the blood antibody response reverses itself and stops producing antibodies.

 

After reading the e-book; I did a lot of research and I came across so many other researches that also support this theory. There are many studies done indicating the link between H-Pylori and autoimmune diseases and the fact that H-Pylori antibodies can cause autoimmune diseases but unfortunately dermatologists are not aware of these studies or for some reason resist accepting the facts; and instead they treat the symptoms and leave the cause of vitiligo alone and untreated. An interested person can view these studies by just googling the keywords “h-pylori and autoimmune” or “h-pylori antibodies” within seconds a number of scientific studies from reliable sources will be on his/her computer screen indicating that H-Pylori antibodies can cause autoimmune diseases. I randomly picked a couple of links on researches previously done. Click on the links below and you will see a few scientific researches.

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Doi=48836

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/1/176

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bookshelf/br.fcgi?book=hp&part=A3996

For a dermatologist the proof is very simple, all he/she has to do is to test the acidity level of each of his/her vitiligo patient and the fact will speak for itself. The test could be done with the use of PH capsule without inserting a tube through the nose. Again a dermatologist can google the keyword “PH capsule” and a number of sites provide info on how to test the acidity level without inserting a tube into the patient’s stomach. Below is the ph capsule test link http://www.phcapsule.com/ . As a vitiligo patient I am writing this letter with the hope that I raise awareness among dermatologists and among researchers so that more researches are conducted on the link between h-pylori germ, low acidity and vitiligo, and a proper approach is taken for complete cure of this disease. 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Wali Frozan

what does low stomach acid mean? i have been suffering from hyper acidity for 15 long years.. got vitiligo 1 year back?

If you are saying is true and I myself just researched it - then yes I am one of the 90% Vitiligo patients who has this problem... I just found out that all the symptoms of low acid levels in body are present in me plus low acid levels and associated conditions of thyroid, headache (migraine) and vitiligo are present in me..

now I also can see why my doctor wrote in my prescription to treat associated diseases on their own merit - he was highlighting Thyroid and Acidity...

Lastly the bloody root-cause in center of all this is "chronic stress"... man the equation just seems to be becoming so bloody clear...

Thanks for this post buddy - you have given a big ray of hope to me to cleanse my body of all the nonsense I have exposed to it for past 15 years...

Cheers
Puneet

The symptoms of low acidity are bloating, heartburn, reduced digestion time. Unfortunately people associate heartburn with high stomach acid and subsequently take acid-lowering drugs, by doing so they encourage greater H. Pylori activity.

just to give you an update..

No doctor here is willing to buy a low acid level theory in India and they have a reason for same - if a wrong diagnosis and they give a medicine for raising acid levels it leads to ulcers and stomach cancer.

I spoke to the doctor who is treating me for vitiligo and as soon as I told him that I have 83% of the symptoms for low acid levels he immediately put me on a medication that is Lansoprazole.

I have my appointment with him on April 2nd and he has asked me to take this medicine for 2 weeks. Since last 3 days the heart burn has completely subsided. On April 2nd I will also ask him to refer me to a specialist who can establish the stomach acid levels.

What I agree is that in my case acid levels and stress have a role to play in my vitiligo given that I have had acid problems for 15 years and I have been on antacids for same amount of time. in 2008 I went through a highly stressful period along with a non-stop usage of antacid for 9 month period which I believe has a big role to play in onset of vitiligo in April 2009.

I hope slowly the entire puzzle is falling in place in regards to my treatment. I remember a doctor telling me - if you can find the root-cause of your vitiligo and cure that the disease will automatically reverse.

Thank you very much for this definition. My brother has known this to be something else. We did not know it as Vitiligo. Is this a new name for it, I was just wondering why to local docters did not know it as this condition.

Thanks for shining a light on this.

~ Sam

wfrozan wrote:

I was diagnosed with vitiligo recently and I came across a book which was the only source that provided a root cause for autoimmune diseases. To summaries; the book explains how low stomach acid caused by h-pylori causes incomplete digestion of food with resultant absorption of large undigested macromolecules into the blood. The blood then produces a widespread antibody response. The widespread antibody response may destroy healthy cells causing autoimmune diseases such as vitiligo. Body may be conditioned to continue making antibodies for several years even thought the h-pylori is killed. I thought this is an interesting theory and might be of some interest to you.

 

According to Southern Medical Journal 38(4):235-240, April of 1945; 90% of Vitiligo patients had little or no stomach Acid, 95% of Alopecia patients had little or no stomach Acid, 100% of Lupus Erythematosis patients had little or no stomach Acid, 89% of  Psoriasis patients had little or no stomach Acid, 85% of Urticaria patients had little or no stomach Acid, 74% of Eczema patients had little or no stomach Acid, 87% of Acne Rosacea patients has little or no stomach Acid. The book sigestion on how it kill H-pylori is to take sufficient amount of Betaine Hydrochloride according to the degree of tolerance for an extended period of time. Patients will not see improvement until the body stops producing antibodies.

 

 

Best regards,

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Franckly Doctors do not care as long as they get paid by the pharmacies for prescribing protopic, hydrocortisones and UVA light. We all know that vitiligo has an internal cause and applying something on the skin is not a cure for an internal problem. See my first posting for information on what causes vitiligo and work on it. Thanks,

agreed 200% agreed.

i have a full day medical test to be performed on me on Monday... it is part of my company's health benefit for its employees. I will be calling up the test center and also ask them to include the pH level testing in stomach..

if the results show positive correlation two thngs are for sure:

1. the family doctor who had been proscribing me for antacid and acid lowering medicines for over 12 years is in for a huge negative publicity - i will make sure that i drag him to courts for playing with my internal systems...

2. i will continue to pursue this acid theory with my own dermatologist - at least he did not shut me off last time i spoke to him over phone and suggested me a medicine that has helped me for past 4 days - no heart burns etc... Am due for a check up with him on April 2nd.. will discuss this with him in detail.. am sure he will give this a patient hearing..

But one thing is for sure.. all the doctors dislike a patient who is more knowledgeable than them..

WOW! Thank you very much for your reply. I know what both of you are saying. I completely agree with both your opinions. I recently fired my doctor, of 20 years, for a doctor that is younger than me because he had the attitude that he was going to find out what the root problem is that I am experiencing. My previous doctor thought medication would fix anything.

I also find that the more experienced doctors are not interested in learning things.

Thanks again and I deeply value both your opinions.

~ Sam

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great... thankfully we have 3 now who seem to have a same problem...

buddy why dont u ask ur doctor to research on pulse therapy approach using dexamethasone tablets.. it may be of help

I will look into that and bring it up with at the next appointment. Thanks for the insight.

~ Sam

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Fulvic Acid

this line of thinking is working mate..
my doctor has put me on Lansoprazole - a PPI used to treat H.Pylori...
works...

We all know some ways of treating the skin but if this theory works; it will remove the cause forever. Unfortunately dermatologists don’t show any interest on new theories. They don’t take the initiative to do something differently. Also they only focus on skin, they are skin doctors and don’t focus on stomach.

 

Regards,

 

Wali Frozan

Hi Wali,

Have you got any improvements (Repigmentation) after treating H-Pylori?

Or any body seen any improvements (Repigmentation)?

I did H-pylori test (i.e. Breath test methos) but it came negative. So, doctor did not prescribe any medicine.